Calea Zacatechichi: Smoking, Drinking, and Encapsulating the Dream Herb

My Bag of Dream HerbCalea Zacatechichi gets quite a bit of attention from lucid dreamers.

For good reason too: rumor has it that by smoking or drinking tea made from its leaves, you can experience extremely vivid dreams and hopefully – especially – have lucid dreams.

Here’s a good definition lifted from the Wikipedia entry for dream herb:

“Calea zacatechichi, also known as Dream Herb, Cheech, and Bitter Grass, is a plant used by the indigenous Oaxaca Chontal of the Mexican state of Oaxaca for oneiromancy (a form of divination based on dreams.) It has been scientifically demonstrated that extracts of this plant increase reaction times and the frequency and/or recollection of dreams versus placebo and diazepam.”

I’m not the only one who finds this description enticing. Every few months on DreamViews someone starts a well-intentioned thread asking about this plant. Much of the ensuing conversation dwells on how bitter the taste of Calea Zacatechichi tea is, which then leads to sharing tips on how to mask it so you can get the whole god-awful tea down your throat without retching.

On this point, I concur; it tastes horrible. But I’m getting ahead of myself…

About 5 years ago I ordered this plant online and was really excited about its potential. But the reality was I had little success using it for dream-work. Later, I’d always wondered if this was due to user error or the plant itself. It may sound incredulous, but I didn’t really know how to make tea back then. I had never drank tea in my life. So maybe I just didn’t brew it right?

With this doubtful memory in mind, the more I read about it online the more I wanted to give it another shot. Particularly after reading about one persons experience with it where they describe that after smoking some and going to sleep, they simply emerged fully conscious, immediately, in the dream world. It was as if the consciousness transition into their dreams was as easy as diving into a pool.

That was it - I decided to buy some more.

The Experiments Begin….


Part One: Smoking Calea Zacatechichi

I’m happy to say I enjoy smoking Calea Zacatechichi.There is a subtle but real effect of relaxation and lightheadedness that accompany a few bowls of the dream herb. It’s nothing major – taking bong hits of Calea Zacatechichi to get stoned would be quite a misguided adventure – but still, a subtle but relaxing effect is there. (Don’t expect anyone to kiss you though – I’ve heard a few complaints about a lingering aftertaste in my mouth.)

The first night I smoked maybe half a gram, just one bowl after another. I was reading about it online at the same time and by the time I went asleep I was quite excited about what lay waiting for me in my dreams.

Sadly, upon waking I realized the expectation was much more exciting than reality.

Either I had few dreams or my dream recall was poor. The only cool thing about smoking Calea Zacatechichi that night was that it enhanced the visuals of the Sirius Sound and Light Machine session that I often use to help me fall asleep.

The next few nights weren’t too spectacularly either.

That is, all except for one.

I was making an effort to really inhale and hold in the smoke. I even remember thinking to myself that tonight something will be different! I could feel it!

Right on queue, that night I had a lucid dream!

In my dream, I stood in a doorway of an office and instantly realized it was a dream. My lucidity continued for a few minutes while I - admittedly, rather obnoxiously - roamed around the office knocking things down and wreaking havoc for no good reason other than I could. In the usual unpredictable fashion of dream characters, no one seemed to really care what I was doing.

And then suddenly, without any notice, it turned into a “normal” dream again and continued on without my conscious awareness.

The next morning I was able to remember both the lucid dream and the long, strange dream preceeding it.

Can we attribute these experiences to Calea Zacatechichi? I’d like to but I\it’s so hit or miss that it’s hard to say one way or the other if it had any effect.



Part Two: Drinking Calea Zacatechichi Tea

Despite my one good experience with the dream herb, I became frustrated after several nights of mediocre to no discernable effect.

I also realized that I was only smoking maybe a gram, which is far less than the 5 gram dose that had been suggested to me through various online articles and stories of personal experiences.

There was only one way to make this work – I had to make the tea!

5 years had passed since I made that tea.

And let me tell you - 5 years is enough time to talk yourself out of remembering just how horrible it was! I was convinced it wouldn’t be so bad – I mean, really, how bad could it be? It’s just a cup of tea, right?!

I measured out and brewed 5 grams for about 15 minutes on my stove. Since before I was smoking just a gram, I was hoping that this tea would really blow my mind. I also threw two mint teas into the mix to help mask the taste of Calea Zacatechichi.

After 15 minutes, it was too hot so I plucked out a spoonful and dipped my tongue into to get a tiny taste. The bitterness spread throughout my entire mouth like wildfire consuming a forest. Really, I could not fucking believe how bitter this taste was. No one reading this can understand this bitter taste unless they’ve experienced it themselves.

My gesture with the mint tea now seemed little more than pathetic ignorance at what I was dealing with here. I ended up dumping tons of Agave Nectar (similar to honey) and soy milk into the tea to cover things up. This did help a little but it was still nasty.

I managed to drink it down in about 30 minutes. I gagged once or twice, but then it was over, and within the hour, I fell asleep.

The results?

I had two vivid dreams that night. And yes, vivid dreams are cool to have but this was far from spectacular as I have vivid dreams frequently without drinking any nasty tea.

Again, did the Calea Zacatechichi actually do anything?



Part Three: Making Calea Zacatechichi Capsules!

“”I think if the Chantal indians knew what capsules were, they wouldn’t have been drinking that awful tea.”

DreamViews forum, September 2006

After smoking and drinking it, two things became clear to me.

One, I’d rather die than drink the tea again.

And two, smoking a proper dosage was just too much for the lungs.

So I used up my last option short of injecting it straight into my veins:

Capsules!

I’d read about others making capsules themselves so I decided I could to.

I painstakingly ground up the Calea Zacatechichi, placed it into empty vegetarian capsules, then weighed each one with the one before it until I had reached 10 grams.

It brought back some funny memories of enthusiastic DIY drug use but it was a lot more work that I expected. Granted, I was using only a fork and a chopstick to shove everything in the capsule and I was grinding them with my fingers and the bottom of a pill bottle – not the most professional tools for the job!

But after 2 hours I had placed 10 grams into 25 capsules.

I was really concerned that in about 5 hours I’d wake up grimacing in pain if I took all 10 grams at once, straight to the stomach, so I decided to take half. Still, looking at all the 12 big pills I had to swallow to get 5 grams was a bit intimidating.

Setting this concern aside, I took all 12 capsules with a glass of water and a smile on my face.

For the next hour I had a sort of light body buzz. Laying in bed I did see some breed of throbbing visuals on my eyelids. Nothing intense, but it was definitely there. (Regrettably I was too tired to bother enhancing this with the Sirius Sound and Light Machine.)

The next morning I was shocked and disappointed that the night passed with hardly even a dream.

What the hell!

The next night I took the remaining half of the pills, another 5 grams worth… and the same thing.

NOTHING.

It’s as if Calea Zacatechichi was playing tricks on me!

Usually I have some or even lots of dreams and these two nights I had very poor dream recall.

So very very anti-climatic.



Conclusions: I think I need the 10X Pills

And so for now this is how this story ends.

I so wish I was sharing my amazing journey into the dream world instead of this long story of a letdown.

To that end, I’ll be getting my hands on some of the 10x pills soon and will be happily sharing the results.

In the meantime though, what do you think of all this?

Is Calea Zacatechichi.worthless?

Honestly, I really don’t think so, but then….

Does that mean it only works with certain people?

Did I not take enough?

Does it have to build in the body incrementally for weeks?

Did I try too hard and psyche myself out?

Did I doing something wrong?

12 Responses to “Calea Zacatechichi: Smoking, Drinking, and Encapsulating the Dream Herb”

  1. Interesting. Like I said in that last comment, I’ve yet to find any substance that is 100% for producing lucid dreams. People like to talk up their favorite substances, but when it comes down to it, they rarely as amazing as they are talked up to be.

    If you’re on the substance train though, there’s one substance which I’ve heard very interesting things about. Salvia Divinorum is said to produce full blown OBE’s and similar effects at high doses. You may want to look into that as well, if you haven’t heard of it already.

    Good luck with these experiments, I think I’m going to write up a short little thing about them on my blog because this sort of thing is just cool, not to mention informative.

    Good luck!

    -Hatter

  2. I too have experimented with various drugs to induce lucidity and agree with mad hatter that I have yet to find any 100% substance. If someone were to discover such a 100% drug it would be a boon to all humankind.

    I am on several medications for psychiatric disorders and fortunately none of them have interfered with my natural dreaming processes. One has had a positive effect on my lucid occurences - it is a mild psychotropic medication called ‘Seroquel’. I don’t know if I’d go so far as to advocate it as a lucidity pill, but the increase in lucid dream activity and the general vividness of dreams seems too significant to be dismissed as mere coincidence. I think it would be safe to say that any member of the psychotropic-pharmaceutical family would be a help in lucid induction.

  3. I think Ska on DreamViews said something about African Dream Herb and how its effects culminated over a series of days. Perhaps Calea is the same way? I know that ingesting drugs usually has longer but less pronounced effects, so I’m not sure if eating it is effective at all. Maybe you have to absorb it quickly. I’d check out erowid if you haven’t already.

    -Hatter

  4. I admire your effort and enjoyed reading your account. Personally, I would be a little concerned about the potential health effects, but that’s just me.

    I’m sure your efforts will pay off in the end.

  5. Mad Hatter,,
    I’m an Erowid junkie. :) If I could I would print the entire website into a series of encyclopedia’s and proudly display them on my shelf.

    Zataod,
    I understand where you’re coming from. I guess I’m not worried though because I’ve never heard of anything bad ever related to Calea Z. consumption - nothing whatsoever. If I thought there was a potential to overdose I would be very very cautious but as far as I can see, this herb is nontoxic and no one has ever overdosed or even thrown up or gotten sick from using it (unless you include people gagging from the horrible taste of the tea :)

    Thanks for ya’lls input.

    I’m soon to be getting the 10x pills in the mail…yay!

    Ben

  6. i expermented with this herb about 5 and 10 years ago.

    there is something you are missing

    -just like Cannibis Sativa- Calea Z. Has a potent DARK green FEMALE
    AND A NON-POTENT light green MALE.

    I HAVE HAD BOTH-AND SOME HEAD SHOPS SELL POUCHES OF THE LIGHT GREEN BUNK KIND.

    LIGHT GREEN-TASTED LIKE ROTTING VOMIT, NO REAL EFFECT.

    DARK GREEN-TASTED LIKE ROTTING PUTRID VOMIT-SLAMMED IT ALL IN ONE SHOT, TRIED HARD NOT TO VOMIT. THE MOST INTENSE,LUCID,LONGEST DREAMS I EVER HAD!!!!!

  7. i also had poor results with my calea experiences, i was actually reading this thread hoping someone had some advice on how to get the full experience, but sounds like the same dissapointing story i had. my dreams are so vivid some nights, but the two nights i smoked, drank calea i had NO dreams at all.

  8. Matt,
    I am working on a new website on Calea Z that I hope will provide you with the advice you are looking for on getting the best experience with this dream induction herb. Be on the lookout for an annoucement soon. I would also like to document your experience for the site, be on the lookout for an email from me!

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  10. The problem is, that if you have taken Calea one time, your body has built up a certain tolerance level quickly. You have to wait more than two weeks before taking Calea again for an effect. This is my experience. Greetz, Jonathan

  11. Jonathan - Funny, I had theorized the exact opposite - that it took a cumulative effect on the body.

    Have you had your experience confirmed many times?

  12. This is really funny. :-) I just could get effects when waiting some weeks. And if I took Calea in series, already at the second time it doesn’t work anymore. I could observe it often by using such herbals. Maybe - as anything - it’s just a matter of beliefs. :-)

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