Comments on: What’s the Point of Lucid Dreaming? http://dreaminglife.org/2007/08/29/whats-the-point-of-lucid-dreaming/ a blog exploring lucid dreaming, entheogens, metaphysics, & the conscious experience Fri, 29 Aug 2008 07:47:57 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.1 By: Jacob Haqq-Misra http://dreaminglife.org/2007/08/29/whats-the-point-of-lucid-dreaming/#comment-5641 Jacob Haqq-Misra Wed, 29 Aug 2007 23:23:46 +0000 http://dreaminglife.org/2007/08/29/whats-the-point-of-lucid-dreaming/#comment-5641 Strangely enough, my answer to your question was the subject of <a href="http://haqqmisra.livejournal.com/94447.html" rel="nofollow">my blog entry today</a> (and I wrote it before I read yours!). Strangely enough, my answer to your question was the subject of my blog entry today (and I wrote it before I read yours!).

]]> By: Ben http://dreaminglife.org/2007/08/29/whats-the-point-of-lucid-dreaming/#comment-5652 Ben Thu, 30 Aug 2007 01:28:18 +0000 http://dreaminglife.org/2007/08/29/whats-the-point-of-lucid-dreaming/#comment-5652 Jacob, That's a weird coincidence! I've responded to your post on your blog... & what a lovely post it was. I also just added you to my blogroll. :) Jacob,
That’s a weird coincidence!

I’ve responded to your post on your blog… & what a lovely post it was.

I also just added you to my blogroll. :)

]]> By: Bill Perry http://dreaminglife.org/2007/08/29/whats-the-point-of-lucid-dreaming/#comment-5675 Bill Perry Thu, 30 Aug 2007 08:33:56 +0000 http://dreaminglife.org/2007/08/29/whats-the-point-of-lucid-dreaming/#comment-5675 Ben, I initially wanted to try out Lucid Dreaming for the "rush" of being able to control a dream. Having realized that control is a delicate process indeed, I then realized that it was far more beneficial to me at first to just let the dreams happen. I am now able to control the dreams somewhat, as far as characters. I have yet to really try control of setting/place of the dreams. My big thrill with Lucid Dreams now si the "rush" of connecting more fully with myself and seeing what my other-than-conscious mind is REALLY trying to tell me. I'm not to the stage of experimenting with Deep Trance Modeling in Lucid Dreams. And this so far is the trippiest shit I've done in a while. All in All, I rather enjoy lucid dreaming because it just feels good to be fully aware and connected. Ben,
I initially wanted to try out Lucid Dreaming for the “rush” of being able to control a dream. Having realized that control is a delicate process indeed, I then realized that it was far more beneficial to me at first to just let the dreams happen.

I am now able to control the dreams somewhat, as far as characters. I have yet to really try control of setting/place of the dreams.

My big thrill with Lucid Dreams now si the “rush” of connecting more fully with myself and seeing what my other-than-conscious mind is REALLY trying to tell me.

I’m not to the stage of experimenting with Deep Trance Modeling in Lucid Dreams. And this so far is the trippiest shit I’ve done in a while.

All in All, I rather enjoy lucid dreaming because it just feels good to be fully aware and connected.

]]> By: Kris http://dreaminglife.org/2007/08/29/whats-the-point-of-lucid-dreaming/#comment-5762 Kris Thu, 30 Aug 2007 21:01:46 +0000 http://dreaminglife.org/2007/08/29/whats-the-point-of-lucid-dreaming/#comment-5762 Hi Ben, My dream exploration is aimed at many of the same purposes you described -- a means to understand consciousness, to explore different facets of awareness and perception, and to shed the ego and experience that sense of connectedness often achieved through meditation or other mystic practices. LOL, though, occupying many characters within the same dream sure shakes up the ego...Do I have a bigger ego because I acknowledge that I am all things and all people within the dream, or do I lose the ego for the exact same reason? :-) Bill's comment about connecting more fully with himself and learning more about the other-than-conscious mind also hits home. Many of my dream studies are for the purpose of exploring the whole mind rather than being limited to the part I have conscious access to in waking life. Plus we get to fly. And walk through walls. And converse with intelligent plants and animals. And make spouses endure long treatises on the many merits of lucid dreaming. It's a win-win situation all the way around. :-) ~ Kris Hi Ben,

My dream exploration is aimed at many of the same purposes you described — a means to understand consciousness, to explore different facets of awareness and perception, and to shed the ego and experience that sense of connectedness often achieved through meditation or other mystic practices. LOL, though, occupying many characters within the same dream sure shakes up the ego…Do I have a bigger ego because I acknowledge that I am all things and all people within the dream, or do I lose the ego for the exact same reason? :-)

Bill’s comment about connecting more fully with himself and learning more about the other-than-conscious mind also hits home. Many of my dream studies are for the purpose of exploring the whole mind rather than being limited to the part I have conscious access to in waking life.

Plus we get to fly. And walk through walls. And converse with intelligent plants and animals. And make spouses endure long treatises on the many merits of lucid dreaming. It’s a win-win situation all the way around. :-)

~ Kris

]]> By: Chris http://dreaminglife.org/2007/08/29/whats-the-point-of-lucid-dreaming/#comment-5766 Chris Thu, 30 Aug 2007 22:25:22 +0000 http://dreaminglife.org/2007/08/29/whats-the-point-of-lucid-dreaming/#comment-5766 Hi Ben, I while I haven't gotten into lucid dreaming lately, I have had lucid dreams and I can relaete to some of your points. - Flying at will is awesome. - Experimenting with mental states, especially seeing what happens when I've tried to go deep in order to experience God. - On a purely physical level, there is the unique opportunity (for those inclined) to engage in random sex without negative consequences or even the idea that you are doing something morally wrong. - The opportunity to experiment with OOB experiences (unsuccessful so far) where I try to memorize a pattern on a wall that I haven't seen before and see if it exists in waking life. But while these things can be fascinating for many people, for some people it holds no appeal or intrigue whatsoever. I have the same differences with my own wife. :) Hi Ben, I while I haven’t gotten into lucid dreaming lately, I have had lucid dreams and I can relaete to some of your points.

- Flying at will is awesome.
- Experimenting with mental states, especially seeing what happens when I’ve tried to go deep in order to experience God.
- On a purely physical level, there is the unique opportunity (for those inclined) to engage in random sex without negative consequences or even the idea that you are doing something morally wrong.
- The opportunity to experiment with OOB experiences (unsuccessful so far) where I try to memorize a pattern on a wall that I haven’t seen before and see if it exists in waking life.

But while these things can be fascinating for many people, for some people it holds no appeal or intrigue whatsoever. I have the same differences with my own wife. :)

]]> By: Oneironaught http://dreaminglife.org/2007/08/29/whats-the-point-of-lucid-dreaming/#comment-5811 Oneironaught Fri, 31 Aug 2007 16:25:48 +0000 http://dreaminglife.org/2007/08/29/whats-the-point-of-lucid-dreaming/#comment-5811 Ben, It's difficult to explain to anybody why dreaming is a passion, but your 'elegant' response is brilliant. I love the idea of calling yourself - that one never occured to me. My friends are usually sympathetic when I try to describe my dream adventures but they don't seem to really catch on. The few times I've tried explaining the thrill of the experience to casual acquaintances they have looked at me like I had antenna growing out of my head. Sadly, dreaming (and inner exploration in general) are not very well respected in our society. I'm fascinate by every aspect of lucid dreaming but I've confessed before that the real thrill for me is that initial moment of awe and wonder when you first realize you are dreaming. It is a truly magickal sensation to realize that everything you are experiencing is a construct of your own mind. The potential is limitless. Ben,

It’s difficult to explain to anybody why dreaming is a passion, but your ‘elegant’ response is brilliant. I love the idea of calling yourself - that one never occured to me. My friends are usually sympathetic when I try to describe my dream adventures but they don’t seem to really catch on. The few times I’ve tried explaining the thrill of the experience to casual acquaintances they have looked at me like I had antenna growing out of my head. Sadly, dreaming (and inner exploration in general) are not very well respected in our society.
I’m fascinate by every aspect of lucid dreaming but I’ve confessed before that the real thrill for me is that initial moment of awe and wonder when you first realize you are dreaming. It is a truly magickal sensation to realize that everything you are experiencing is a construct of your own mind.
The potential is limitless.

]]> By: Ben http://dreaminglife.org/2007/08/29/whats-the-point-of-lucid-dreaming/#comment-6105 Ben Tue, 04 Sep 2007 19:34:49 +0000 http://dreaminglife.org/2007/08/29/whats-the-point-of-lucid-dreaming/#comment-6105 Absolutely. That initial moment of realizing that your experience is actually a dream, and is 100% contained within your own mind, is truly "magical." (So much so that half the time we wake up right afterwards, gushing with excitement! ;) ) Absolutely. That initial moment of realizing that your experience is actually a dream, and is 100% contained within your own mind, is truly “magical.” (So much so that half the time we wake up right afterwards, gushing with excitement! ;) )

]]> By: Ben http://dreaminglife.org/2007/08/29/whats-the-point-of-lucid-dreaming/#comment-6106 Ben Tue, 04 Sep 2007 19:38:42 +0000 http://dreaminglife.org/2007/08/29/whats-the-point-of-lucid-dreaming/#comment-6106 Chris I'm glad you mentioned lucid dream sex. I was too shy to publicly proclaim it on the front page of my blog. :) I wonder what the stats are if everyone admitted how much lucid dream content is sexual. I believe it was famous lucid dream author Patricia Garfield who estimated that 80% of her lucid dreams were sexual. I'm reading Stephen LaBerge's famous classic on LD'ing and he suggests that this is one of the first experiences dreamers seek out. He said something I thought was interesting - that it might be necessary for people to experience the world of dream sex before moving on to the other activities. Chris I’m glad you mentioned lucid dream sex. I was too shy to publicly proclaim it on the front page of my blog. :) I wonder what the stats are if everyone admitted how much lucid dream content is sexual. I believe it was famous lucid dream author Patricia Garfield who estimated that 80% of her lucid dreams were sexual. I’m reading Stephen LaBerge’s famous classic on LD’ing and he suggests that this is one of the first experiences dreamers seek out. He said something I thought was interesting - that it might be necessary for people to experience the world of dream sex before moving on to the other activities.

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