Comments on: Can anyone confirm that there are male/female Calea Z plants, only one of which is good for lucid dreaming? http://dreaminglife.org/2007/10/04/can-anyone-confirm-that-there-are-malefemale-calea-z-plants-only-one-of-which-is-good-for-lucid-dreaming/ a blog exploring lucid dreaming, entheogens, metaphysics, & the conscious experience Fri, 22 Aug 2008 00:36:03 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.1 By: Benjamin http://dreaminglife.org/2007/10/04/can-anyone-confirm-that-there-are-malefemale-calea-z-plants-only-one-of-which-is-good-for-lucid-dreaming/#comment-16575 Benjamin Sun, 07 Oct 2007 06:56:52 +0000 http://dreaminglife.org/2007/10/04/can-anyone-confirm-that-there-are-malefemale-calea-z-plants-only-one-of-which-is-good-for-lucid-dreaming/#comment-16575 After many unsuccessful experiments, I too have been considering the possibility that maybe I'm just getting bunk Calea Z. I don't know about the male/female dynamic in this plant, but a 1986 study I read at http://leda.lycaeum.org/?ID=16295 suggests that there might be different varieties or subspecies: "Further taxonomic work is required since our Chontal informant distinguishes between 'good' and 'bad' varieties according to their psychotropic properties..." I buy from IAmShaman, who I trust for quality, but then again maybe one of these supposed "useless" varieties is in circulation? After many unsuccessful experiments, I too have been considering the possibility that maybe I’m just getting bunk Calea Z. I don’t know about the male/female dynamic in this plant, but a 1986 study I read at http://leda.lycaeum.org/?ID=16295 suggests that there might be different varieties or subspecies:

“Further taxonomic work is required since our Chontal informant distinguishes between ‘good’ and ‘bad’ varieties according to their psychotropic properties…”

I buy from IAmShaman, who I trust for quality, but then again maybe one of these supposed “useless” varieties is in circulation?

]]> By: Ben http://dreaminglife.org/2007/10/04/can-anyone-confirm-that-there-are-malefemale-calea-z-plants-only-one-of-which-is-good-for-lucid-dreaming/#comment-17524 Ben Tue, 09 Oct 2007 18:38:01 +0000 http://dreaminglife.org/2007/10/04/can-anyone-confirm-that-there-are-malefemale-calea-z-plants-only-one-of-which-is-good-for-lucid-dreaming/#comment-17524 That quote is pretty damning evidence that there are good and bad varieties. Nothing about it being tied to a male or female plant though. The question remains: how to tell? Thanks a lot for this quote and the reference to this study. I have read it before but missed the bit about good and bad varieties. Did you catch this hilarious snippet on the effects of Calea Z on cats? "The cats stared for long periods of time and 30 min after the administration of the zacatechichi extracts somnolence and sleep were frequently observed." Maybe my cat is getting into my dream herb because that pretty much follows her routine everyday: sit around, stare at stuff, and sleep. :) That quote is pretty damning evidence that there are good and bad varieties. Nothing about it being tied to a male or female plant though. The question remains: how to tell?

Thanks a lot for this quote and the reference to this study. I have read it before but missed the bit about good and bad varieties.

Did you catch this hilarious snippet on the effects of Calea Z on cats?

“The cats stared for long periods of time and 30 min after the administration of the zacatechichi extracts somnolence and sleep were frequently observed.”

Maybe my cat is getting into my dream herb because that pretty much follows her routine everyday: sit around, stare at stuff, and sleep. :)

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