Comments on: Panel Discussion: Will we ever have a magic pill for lucid dreaming? (Plus the potential of DMT.) http://dreaminglife.org/2007/12/11/panel-discussion-will-we-ever-have-a-magic-pill-for-lucid-dreaming-plus-the-potential-of-dmt/ a blog exploring lucid dreaming, entheogens, metaphysics, & the conscious experience Fri, 25 Jul 2008 11:07:51 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.1 By: Ryan http://dreaminglife.org/2007/12/11/panel-discussion-will-we-ever-have-a-magic-pill-for-lucid-dreaming-plus-the-potential-of-dmt/#comment-36989 Ryan Wed, 19 Dec 2007 00:46:11 +0000 http://dreaminglife.org/2007/12/11/panel-discussion-will-we-ever-have-a-magic-pill-for-lucid-dreaming-plus-the-potential-of-dmt/#comment-36989 i think a lucid dreaming pill is inherently flawed idea. not that there aren't plant teachers, DMT or other oids (take yer pick) out there that can provide opportunities for lucidity. i'd say galantamine is pretty reliable for providing opportunities. but here's the catch. teachers can motivate, elevate and open doors. humans have been on that trip for millenia. but those elevated states have to be integrated into normative consciousness. if someone blast off, again and again, what's the use if they can't even remember what was experienced? that's the main issue with DMT. integration takes time, it takes patience, and it take work (and maybe smaller doses). a pill can provide opportunities for lucidity in a dream but how well can the ego handle the opportunity? that's the crux for me. is there still learning going on, or are the dreams becoming repetitive? is the integrative work able to go on? as long as the pills are part of a larger praxis - meditation/exploration/soulwork - then i say yes, a better lucid dreaming could become available. a pill can get someone up to the doorway, but it's up to that individual to walk thru the threshold. i think a lucid dreaming pill is inherently flawed idea. not that there aren’t plant teachers, DMT or other oids (take yer pick) out there that can provide opportunities for lucidity. i’d say galantamine is pretty reliable for providing opportunities.

but here’s the catch. teachers can motivate, elevate and open doors. humans have been on that trip for millenia. but those elevated states have to be integrated into normative consciousness. if someone blast off, again and again, what’s the use if they can’t even remember what was experienced? that’s the main issue with DMT. integration takes time, it takes patience, and it take work (and maybe smaller doses).

a pill can provide opportunities for lucidity in a dream but how well can the ego handle the opportunity? that’s the crux for me. is there still learning going on, or are the dreams becoming repetitive? is the integrative work able to go on? as long as the pills are part of a larger praxis - meditation/exploration/soulwork - then i say yes, a better lucid dreaming could become available.

a pill can get someone up to the doorway, but it’s up to that individual to walk thru the threshold.

]]> By: PoisonedV http://dreaminglife.org/2007/12/11/panel-discussion-will-we-ever-have-a-magic-pill-for-lucid-dreaming-plus-the-potential-of-dmt/#comment-40658 PoisonedV Wed, 23 Jan 2008 23:31:26 +0000 http://dreaminglife.org/2007/12/11/panel-discussion-will-we-ever-have-a-magic-pill-for-lucid-dreaming-plus-the-potential-of-dmt/#comment-40658 Holy shit, sweet blog, my two favorite things: Entheogens and lucid dreaming! If only they wrote about online gaming and guitars :P Holy shit, sweet blog, my two favorite things: Entheogens and lucid dreaming! If only they wrote about online gaming and guitars :P

]]> By: rainer http://dreaminglife.org/2007/12/11/panel-discussion-will-we-ever-have-a-magic-pill-for-lucid-dreaming-plus-the-potential-of-dmt/#comment-45220 rainer Wed, 12 Mar 2008 21:22:08 +0000 http://dreaminglife.org/2007/12/11/panel-discussion-will-we-ever-have-a-magic-pill-for-lucid-dreaming-plus-the-potential-of-dmt/#comment-45220 Hello, Mad Hatter convinces me. I don't believe lucid dreams are a byproduct of the brain. The quest for the pill inducing lucid dreams is an expression of the reason who wants to control another realm of human awreness. Now that lucid dreams become e respectable object it has to be put under control. Well you can learn to dream lucid dreams. Everyone can do it, as long as he believes that there are no obstacles in his or her way. Start today and while you are awake imagine, now I am dreaming. Do this from time to time and your spirit will remember this while you are dreaming and then the lucid dreams begins. Don't wait for the pill, you are all the pill you ever will need. Hello,
Mad Hatter convinces me. I don’t believe lucid dreams are a byproduct of the brain. The quest for the pill inducing lucid dreams is an expression of the reason who wants to control another realm of human awreness. Now that lucid dreams become e respectable object it has to be put under control.

Well you can learn to dream lucid dreams. Everyone can do it, as long as he believes that there are no obstacles in his or her way. Start today and while you are awake imagine, now I am dreaming. Do this from time to time and your spirit will remember this while you are dreaming and then the lucid dreams begins.

Don’t wait for the pill, you are all the pill you ever will need.

]]> By: alex http://dreaminglife.org/2007/12/11/panel-discussion-will-we-ever-have-a-magic-pill-for-lucid-dreaming-plus-the-potential-of-dmt/#comment-58515 alex Tue, 27 May 2008 04:19:10 +0000 http://dreaminglife.org/2007/12/11/panel-discussion-will-we-ever-have-a-magic-pill-for-lucid-dreaming-plus-the-potential-of-dmt/#comment-58515 Certain pills and meditations that can help you relax also help substantially with lucid dreaming success. But I think this has more to do with relaxing your body and mind than anything else. Certain pills and meditations that can help you relax also help substantially with lucid dreaming success. But I think this has more to do with relaxing your body and mind than anything else.

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